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A quick look at the Jeep Wagoneer S—what it is, how it compares to the regular Wagoneer and the Grand Cherokee, Wagoneer S vs Tesla Model Y, and such
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hi there this is Dave and I'm here to
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talk about the Jeep Wagoner s the
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electric one not the big one based on a
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ram so what is the Wagoner s it is a
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luxurious or so we're told battery
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electric car on the STA or Stella large
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platform this is the same platform as
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the Dodge Charger which is the first car
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to be shown on it it is a new platform
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presumably developed mostly at Auburn
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Hills and the w air s is a bit smaller
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in footprint than the new charger but it
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runs from 0 to 60 mph in 3.4 seconds
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with a range of over 300 miles and
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that's about what was promised in terms
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of acceleration they promised us 3.5
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seconds but the range is about 100 Mil
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less than the company originally
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expected now one reason for this is
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probably because they made the decision
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to make the same basic body work for
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both the Jeep Cherokee which is coming
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and hasn't been officially announced yet
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and the Wagoner s which means that they
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need more room under the hood which
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means more weight basically it's
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interesting when you look at it because
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comparing it to the Tesla Model y it's a
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bit longer but the wheelbase is almost
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exactly the same which does suggest that
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they lengthened it late in the process
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so right now we expect that the Wagoner
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s will be sold entirely as a battery
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electric vehicle and if you want the
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gasoline version then you get the
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cheaper Jeep the Cherokee which again
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not yet
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announced the price for the Wagoner s is
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said to be
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$72,000 including shipping but that's
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just for the launch edition which comes
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really well equipped as you can see in
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these pictures with the radar red
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interior the ventilated leather and all
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that jeep claims that this is the most
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aerodynamic car that they've ever made
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with a coefficient of drag of 0 .29 and
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it is the most aerodynamically efficient
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jeep ever made but not of course the
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most aerodynamic chryler vehicle or
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Dodge or what have you uh the peak power
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is as they thought in advance 600
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horsepower and 6117 pound feet of torque
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so we're talking about Viper standards
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of power here which brings that fast
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eror to 60 the top speed is 124 M hour
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because it doesn't have a really wide
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range
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transmission so you're kind of limited
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on the top end not that that will matter
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for 99% of the buyers it gets up to 99
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estimated mile per gallon electric
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equivalent and up to 107 in the city
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that's if you want to compare it to
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other electric vehicles it should be
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pretty efficient in other words they
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still have this being a Jeep a select
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terrain system so there's a knob to
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choose between the various
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automatic snow sand rain that sort of
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thing it's all in there there is no low
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gear it's a single speed transfer case
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and the torque split is both variable
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and fulltime so you're basically alltime
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all-wheel drive with a variable torque
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split so it might be 50/50 or it might
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be 2080 going to the front versus the
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rear wheels and the front suspension
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uses mcferson struts while the rear is
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what they call an integral link system
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the launch Edition with $72,000 price
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tag includes a high-end Macintosh sound
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system nothing to do with the computer
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everything to do with the American Audio
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company the last company to make stereo
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systems in the US as I understand it and
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still exclusive to Jeep and that will be
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an option or standard on the top model
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along with the degree of autonomous
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driving once everything's announced and
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again nothing other than the launch
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edition has been announced yet so we
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don't know pring we don't know options
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and features yet for most of these what
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we do know is that they will all have
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two electric Drive modules or edms
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engineered with
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instantised front wheels and one for the
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rear wheels each one has the motor the
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gears and Power Electronics in a single
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unit hence electric drive module the
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front one has Wheel disconnects just
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like with the gasoline powered rear
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drive cars so that you can save power
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when you don't need need it when you
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don't need all-wheel drive so the wagon
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IRS is being made at tuca Mexico it's
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body code km 49 and the Jeep Cherokee
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will be km 74 the launch edition
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includes a 48 amp level two home charger
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or you can get public charging credits
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through the freeo move
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company this is a 400 volt system with
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100 KW hours of capacity it has DC fast
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charging which takes 23 minutes to go
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from 20% to
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80% if you want to go from 5% to 80%
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that's 52 hours at 120 volts 7 hours at
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240 volts and 28 minutes on DC fast
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charging so 120 volts is standard plugin
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into any plug in your house uh voltage
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most houses have 240 volts available
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that's often used for air conditioners
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uh electric ovens electric dryers stuff
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like
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that and you can see the difference uh
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240 volts cuts the charging level from
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about you know two and two days and
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change to just 7 hours for overnight and
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most of the time you're not going to be
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going from 5% to 80% if you own one of
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these you're just going to be topping it
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off at night you might not be topping it
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off even every night you know maybe
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you're doing it once a week 100 miles
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can be added in 10 minutes from many
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fast Chargers available to the public
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it's important to note that the wagon
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ear s has nothing at all to do with the
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wagon ear indeed one opar wag said Gee
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wouldn't it been great if they had had
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some sort of a you know customer naming
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contest or something and picked out a
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name that would be clearer which they
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did and they chose Wagoner s which was
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the original concept name it's much
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smaller than the actual Wagoner as an
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example here's the length of the Wagoner
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s is 192 in the wagon ear is 215 in
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rounding that's a pretty big difference
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the Wagoner s is just about 1 in short
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of the Grand Cherokee though and if you
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look at the other dimensions it's 83.6
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in wide the Grand Cherokee is 84.6 in
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wide and the Wagoner is 94 so that's 10
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in wider uh with weight it's interesting
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because the wagon ear as an all with all
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those batteries weighs in at
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5667 lb that's about 900 lb more than a
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Grand Cherokee but it's also about 800
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lb less than a wagon ear where you have
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a lot of compromises is in the
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off-roading angle so the approach angle
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is 19.2 de that's less than Wagoner or
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Grand Cherokee breakover is 14° flat and
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departure is 23.4 De the big weakness
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here is the breakover angle and it's
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worth noting that when I'm comparing to
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Wagoner and Grand Cherokee that's to the
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standard suspensions not the air
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suspensions and that's not including any
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off-road packages that the Wagoner or
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Grand Cherokee have so the Wagoner s is
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not exactly a rock crawler you're not
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going to be going out there to uh the
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Rubicon Trail with it you really won't
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well you might but you probably won't
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get very far where it does all right is
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interior space it's got 79.3 in of leg
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room adding up to front and second rows
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the Grand Cherokee for the uh two row
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Grand Cherokee has 79.5 in of leg room
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that's a whole 2 in more the Wagoner of
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course is a little bit longer it's got
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roughly 2 in more leg room than the
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wagon s and a third row which the wagon
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s does not have and the cargo space
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behind the seats is roughly 31 cubic
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feet versus 38 or so in the grand
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Cherokee and of course the three row
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Grand Cherokee L is even longer and has
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more space so the total cargo the total
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volume cargo and human combined is 130
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cubic feet for the wagon ear the regular
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wagon ear it's 207 and for the regular
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Grand Cherokee two row it's 145 what's
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really cool though is it's got almost a
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perfect 50/50 weight ratio in fact if
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you round it is a 50/50 weight ratio now
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what's interesting is comparing a
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Wagoner s to a Tesla Model Y and you see
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that the Wagoner s is about 5 in 5 1/2
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Ines longer but the wheelbase is almost
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identical they're within an inch the
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height is within an inch the width is
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within2
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in and uh the 0 to 60 is just .1 seconds
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faster than the
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Tesla yet it weighs 1,300 lb more than
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the Tesla so go figure and part of that
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is again probably because the uh Wagoner
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s is not 100% optimized for being an
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electric vehicle it has to share its
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platform with the Jeep Cherokee and we
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will see the Cherokee later on and it
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will be interesting to see what they
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come up with incidentally you might have
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been wondering about pricing and how
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reasonable it is so the average price of
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a new car in a couple months before this
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was priced out for the public was over
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$499,000 this is not the starting price
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the $72,000 price is not the starting
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price it's for the launch edition with
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all this standard stuff including the
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Macintosh stereo once more if you want
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to compare it to the Tesla Model y Tesla
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is currently claiming that they will
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sell you a model y for
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$45,000 with the long range rear wheeel
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drive only system if you want long range
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all-wheel drive it's
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$48,000 and the high performance
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all-wheel drive which is the one that
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would compete in performance with the
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Jeep is
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$51,500 they currently have 9750 of
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quote potential incentives on the Teslas
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uh I should point out that if you get
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the standard all-wheel drive model y
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they're quoting is 0 to 60 time of 6 and
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1/2 seconds not 3 and 1/2 seconds so to
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get that 3 and 1/2 seconds you have to
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pay the
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51,500 and if I had to make a guess I'd
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say that the Jeep Wagoner s will start
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when they make the base model at about
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51,500 admittedly Jeep does tend to
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charge a bit extra for paint like $600
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to $900 if you want any color other than
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the one free color but so does Tesla
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Tesla has five colors but only one of
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them is free and the other ones are
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$11,000 or more so that's it for now and
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we'll try to get into more once they
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announce the base models the trackhawk
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which presumably is coming and uh while
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we're at it the Cherokee which will
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presumably be the one with a gasoline
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engine maybe a hybrid maybe not we'll
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find out when we find out and until then
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I'll see you over at motals or stal
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